PGL Chooses Which Province Next?

[BaSheR]

I was just curious Montreal is over and wanted to know if you guys had a guess at where your next tournament will be and how do you decide from where to where like i.e east to west. Idc where it is honestly because I'm going to greyhound or train it wherever it is.

[kaz619]

Yea i talked to a PGL admin and he stated that the next event was going to be in Toronto in the month of January. When? They weren't sure.

[LucKeS]

w0rd. :)

[BaSheR]

Yea i talked to a PGL admin and he stated that the next event was going to be in Toronto in the month of January. When? They weren't sure.

That's sick and it will be a good turnout as well. The west might have the quantity but east has the quality. Cant wait for Toronto in that case

[Perfect]

personly for them as a bisness they need to go to toronto. but for me i would like to see vancouver be the next.

[IronMind]

Toronto would be a good idea, but Vancouver would either make or break PGL.

If they want to stay a solid league, I'd suggest staying in Saskatchewan and Alberta after they're done in Ontario and Quebec. There are tons and tons of teams within Sask and Alberta, assuring a successful turnout.

They should just chill back and remain a local league until they get all of their stuff sorted out.

[BaSheR]

Toronto would be a good idea, but Vancouver would either make or break PGL.

If they want to stay a solid league, I'd suggest staying in Saskatchewan and Alberta after they're done in Ontario and Quebec. There are tons and tons of teams within Sask and Alberta, assuring a successful turnout.

They should just chill back and remain a local league until they get all of their stuff sorted out.

I would love to go Sask just to finally play with all you guys from the west coast. I would rather like Toronto because that would mean better competition and closer for me.

[TKS x SLICK]

Yeah as basher said before

East = Quality
West = Quantity


No offence to anyone from alberta or vancouver but its true... u have good teams there but the east has more.


+ i heard from someone that was talking to kyle that PGL Toronto will be sometime in JAN

[LucKeS]

Yeah as basher said before

East = Quality
West = Quantity


No offence to anyone from alberta or vancouver but its true... u have good teams there but the east has more.


+ i heard from someone that was talking to kyle that PGL Toronto will be sometime in JAN


Did you not read the other posts? Thats was Kaz, he just posted in this forum.

I'll try to make it out also, I loved every moment of that weekend.

[A Fuzzy Bunny]

yea but most people arent in toronto in january lol its to freaking cold! but first id say something like vancover or on the west coast and come to toronto in the summer when alot of people will be there. (thats just the business me talking)

[BaSheR]

yea but most people arent in toronto in january lol its to freaking cold! but first id say something like vancover or on the west coast and come to toronto in the summer when alot of people will be there. (thats just the business me talking)

its gonna be rough driving there last time for mlg toronto from montreal it was 7 hours ( usually 6 but we had breaks ) and we did it at night and i was scared cuz it was so dark lol and we almost crashed ROUGHHH TIMEZ

[LucKeS]

its gonna be rough driving there last time for mlg toronto from montreal it was 7 hours ( usually 6 but we had breaks ) and we did it at night and i was scared cuz it was so dark lol and we almost crashed ROUGHHH TIMEZ


Keep in touch. I'm organizing a ride from Montreal to Torronto for the PGL event.

It's gonna be allot cheaper if we all do it together.

[BaSheR]

Keep in touch. I'm organizing a ride from Montreal to Torronto for the PGL event.

It's gonna be allot cheaper if we all do it together.

sure dude send me a friend request. I forgot to send you one while we were at the event. dude you and your friend on saturday night the games ROUGHHH

[Argyle]

Toronto has the quantity to they havent been there yet so how can you guys say sask has more?

[K3YGUN]

Toronto has the quantity to they havent been there yet so how can you guys say sask has more?

Well Toronto, Montreal, and Ottawa are reasonably close together correct? You would think that teams would be willing to drive a bit to the events. So far Saskatoon had more teams than both Ottawa and Montreal combined! I would love for Toronto to be massive since it is a lot larger than little old s'toon lol

[StiggZ iZ NasTy]

ill to Torotnto with my team will prbly half to replace cam cause of his age but also depends on when the vent is cause im gunna need to get money for hotels and everything else

[.MeThoD]

Well when details are released so late its hard for people to get time of work and arrange rides and what not. I know that if there had of been more notice for Montreal I definately would have gone.

PGL hardly had a site at the time of Regina...that has nothing to do with it.

[jestex]

Yeah as basher said before

East = Quality
West = Quantity


No offence to anyone from alberta or vancouver but its true... u have good teams there but the east has more.


+ i heard from someone that was talking to kyle that PGL Toronto will be sometime in JAN

how the **** does everyone know this?

there has been no tournies on the west coast at all so every time i hear someone ****ing say this it makes me want to slap the **** out of them...
+ quantity would give pgl more funds so you'd think itd be something to aim for

anyway..
anything that comes remotely close to west coast would be cool...

[DunWorry]

VaVaVannncouuuuuuver after Toronto please! I would <3 PGL for a good while. Anytime but March. I'll be in Italy so if you come to Vancouver in March I will cry.

[A Fuzzy Bunny]

its gonna be rough driving there last time for mlg toronto from montreal it was 7 hours ( usually 6 but we had breaks ) and we did it at night and i was scared cuz it was so dark lol and we almost crashed ROUGHHH TIMEZ

lmao basher trust me i'd know i go to back home to T-O every year (oh yea forgot to say i'm from toronto live in montreal lol) but anyways its an easy 6 hour drive till winter trst me its easy in the summer but those roads are hell in the winter lol. so i would say give the west coast a little love and give them 1 event in the winter that no one will go to lol.

[BaSheR]

lmao basher trust me i'd know i go to back home to T-O every year (oh yea forgot to say i'm from toronto live in montreal lol) but anyways its an easy 6 hour drive till winter trst me its easy in the summer but those roads are hell in the winter lol. so i would say give the west coast a little love and give them 1 event in the winter that no one will go to lol.

seriously my mom just told me that im not going to Toronto if theres freeze and rain the days driving to the event cuz its roughhh out there.

[A Fuzzy Bunny]

seriously my mom just told me that im not going to Toronto if theres freeze and rain the days driving to the event cuz its roughhh out there.

yea thats why i might not go which is why they should finish pgl in the summer with the two final events being Toronto then Ottawa. Because thats when everyone is in toronto and ottawa also it would mean more people for the event

[BaSheR]

yea thats why i might not go which is why they should finish pgl in the summer with the two final events being Toronto then Ottawa. Because thats when everyone is in toronto and ottawa also it would mean more people for the event

idk i dont really want pgl dates inteferring with mlg dates in the summer

[.MeThoD]

Are you really that dumb....... You dont think people need time to arange things like that, the full details for Montreal wernt released until like 2 weeks before the event and at that point I cant just tell my boss im not coming to work. Your an idiot

haha ok...whatever you say...just for the record calling me out doesn't make you right, it just makes you look immature.

Regina had absolutely no advertisement at all, Saskatoon had a bit more but there was next to no information besides the date and location until close to the event as well. It looked just like Montreal before the event but with even less info. Of course people need time to arrange things but you had the date long before 2 weeks, just because you weren't sure about how everything was going to work is no excuse. I'm not saying it's wrong because it was your choice, and it was competley justified because who wants to run the risk of it not going well. But there are ways around those kinds of things... if you want to go you can find a way.

The bottom line of my post was Regina and Saskatoon had less notice, less information and still more teams showed up than any of the other events. That's it, there's no argument there because it's the truth...I'm sure that the slow release of information had a fair amount of impact on the amount of teams but my only point was it was like that for almosts ALL the other events so quit whining about it right now, hopefully that will be fixed for future events though.

Next time, consider someone else might know something that you don't.

[LucKeS]

idk i dont really want pgl dates inteferring with mlg dates in the summer


4 now...

[.MeThoD]

Isnt PGL based in Sask??? Obviously they wouldnt need as much notice for all the Randy Saskatchawan teams. Sure there may have been a lot of teams there but I would like to know how many of them traveled from different provinces...... If you want people to be able to travel across the country for your events you NEED TO GIVE MORE NOTICE. I dont know how you can even argue against that.

Teams drove from Alberta, Manitoba, Some from the states...this is with short notice and next to no advertising.

I never once said they didn't "NEED TO GIVE MORE NOTICE" did I? That's not what i'm saying...I know that they need to give more notice and information before events. I think everyone here agrees with that so your now arguing about something completley pointless...

[SReid]

go to regina no travel fees for the guys they just gotta rent a place set up and make money

[.MeThoD]

Ummmm correct me if im wrong but when I said they need more notice the first time you said "That has nothing to do with it"......... Make up ur mind.

Nevermind...my first point was that it had nothing to do with the small amount of teams when you compare it to any other event. They all went the same way so you can't blame it on that and say that the east is better for events. I know that might not have been what you were saying but it's been said so many times before the West gets left out. So saying the east WILL have a better turnout and that this is just because there wasn't enough time isn't even an argument. All of the events were the same sort of deal and west came out with a much better turnout. That's what was meant by my first post so it doesn't at all contradict anything i've said here. But don't take it the completley wrong way or anything.

[K3YGUN]

seriously my mom just told me that im not going to Toronto if theres freeze and rain the days driving to the event cuz its roughhh out there.

LOL Sorry, I just found this humorous.

[BaSheR]

LOL Sorry, I just found this humorous.

im sorry that my parents actually care about my safety

[A Fuzzy Bunny]

im sorry that my parents actually care about my safety

owned lol.

[Argyle]

Well Toronto, Montreal, and Ottawa are reasonably close together correct? You would think that teams would be willing to drive a bit to the events. So far Saskatoon had more teams than both Ottawa and Montreal combined! I would love for Toronto to be massive since it is a lot larger than little old s'toon lol


not reasonably close 6 hour drive + hotel people arent willing when they know they are going to lose good try though, not, FAGGET, and alot of people dont even have the option to drive and train highers the price even more. Give it up that Saskatoon is the gaming pinacle of the world already, it seems that most of you kids try to make it seem like it is,

[TacTics 5]

not reasonably close 6 hour drive + hotel people arent willing when they know they are going to lose good try though, not, FAGGET
not always true. if i could have worked it out to go to montreal i would have went for sure. im only 15 though and maybe next year i will go to events further from winnipeg. but i think that there are people that will go regardless of a top 3 finish. i certainly would have gone to montreal even though i wasnt able to find a good team :P

[K3YGUN]

im sorry that my parents actually care about my safety

:rolleyes: I got nothin lol

[.MeThoD]

Not going because you know your going to lose is the worst argument yet...sorry but I guarantee 3/4 of the people that go, go for fun and competition knowing full well they won't win money but they can try.

[K3YGUN]

not reasonably close 6 hour drive + hotel people arent willing when they know they are going to lose good try though, not, FAGGET, and alot of people dont even have the option to drive and train highers the price even more. Give it up that Saskatoon is the gaming pinacle of the world already, it seems that most of you kids try to make it seem like it is,

how is six hours not close? and please explain why people go to mlg with your reasoning lol

You could have just called me faggot, but you took it to another level. A fagget is a derogatory term for a gay man who cannot spell, or for a gay man who can spell but is being insulted by someone who cannot. It is very offensive.

[CheekyMonkey13]

good try though, not, FAGGET,

Bahahahahahahahahaha

Wow.

Why is everyone so pissy? All that was said was that Saskatoon had the most teams. That's a fact, there's no arguing with that...

Why was this so? Maybe because the players worked their asses off to get more and more teams to come to the event. There where THREE teams that came from my school alone lol, thats nearly half of the teams at Montreal. If the players in Toronto get the word out, PGL Toronto will be as big, if not bigger than Saskatoon.

To be straight up, PGL hasn't been all that organized so far and hasn't done the best job of advertising. (No offense, PGL's awesome.) So it kinda becomes the player's responsibility to get the word out. So if you want a big turnout, go tell people about PGL. And that goes for every city.

[.MeThoD]

Why is everyone so pissy? All that was said was that Saskatoon had the most teams. That's a fact, there's no arguing with that...Exactly...i'm tired of arguing with 6 year old logic...

[LucKeS]

bahahahahahahahaha GAMING CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 points for the picture.


But Monkey is right: Its up 2 us, the Gamers, to help PGL. In the end we are helping ourselves.

All in All Toronto is next, whois gonna be there?

[BaSheR]

10 points for the picture.


But Monkey is right: Its up 2 us, the Gamers, to help PGL. In the end we are helping ourselves.

All in All Toronto is next, whois gonna be there?

im there 100%

[.MeThoD]

bahahahahahahahaha GAMING CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good call...

[Epikon]

If anything the picture proves that sask is the gaming pinnacle of the world....what else is there to even do out here?

As for all the east coasters, maybe the reason no teams show up is you are all little elitist whores. As proven many times in this thread, saying your teams are better and shit. Who wants to go lan with a bunch of dickheads? You need to be nicer to all those local randoms, they are the ones who add to the prize pool.

[BaSheR]

If anything the picture proves that sask is the gaming pinnacle of the world....what else is there to even do out here?

As for all the east coasters, maybe the reason no teams show up is you are all little elitist whores. As proven many times in this thread, saying your teams are better and shit. Who wants to go lan with a bunch of dickheads? You need to be nicer to all those local randoms, they are the ones who add to the prize pool.

so what you're saying , be nicer to you and we get more people to come? kk thx

[IPuppy]

so what you're saying , be nicer to you and we get more people to come? kk thx

You are officially the funniest guy,
ever.

(With a bit of sarcasm)

[BaSheR]

You are officially the funniest guy,
ever.

(With a bit of sarcasm)

cant wait for you to show up to an event. CANT WAIT with no sarcasm

[IPuppy]

cant wait for you to show up to an event. CANT WAIT with no sarcasm

Me too:D

Faggot

[jestex]

so what you're saying , be nicer to you and we get more people to come? kk thx


i don't get it.






+elite points for using "kkt thx" in an actual sentence .... oh wait



OT - no one wants to play with elitist kids because it starts fights.

[IronMind]

Me too:D

Faggot

Oh shit lol

[LucKeS]

Honestly guys, DROP IT HERE.
If you want too hate go PM eachother. All of you are looking bad.
Enough is Enough.

[.MeThoD]

Honestly guys, DROP IT HERE.
If you want too hate go PM eachother. All of you are looking bad.
Enough is Enough.

Glad to see someone else here actually has a head...thank you

[IPuppy]

Glad to see someone else here actually has a head...thank you

I asked him to a lonnnng time ago, but hes so immature that he argues with someone most likely half his age, so I decided that why should I if he doesnt want to?
grow up basher.

[LucKeS]

I asked him to a lonnnng time ago, but hes so immature that he argues with someone most likely half his age, so I decided that why should I if he doesnt want to?
grow up basher.

Drop it, honestly dont keep going.
I know your more mature than this.

Keep the thread on topic please.

[SReid]

If anything the picture proves that sask is the gaming pinnacle of the world....what else is there to even do out here?

As for all the east coasters, maybe the reason no teams show up is you are all little elitist whores. As proven many times in this thread, saying your teams are better and shit. Who wants to go lan with a bunch of dickheads? You need to be nicer to all those local randoms, they are the ones who add to the prize pool.

Rape...

[blackchrom3]

i think-
Montreal
toronto
ottawa
winnipeg
regina
saskatoon
calgary
edmonton
vancouver

what do you guys think

[jestex]

^^^ i like that but i just want it a split between east and west

[SReid]

an event every month in regina. kyle wouldnt have to pay travel fees or ship equipment out. he would just have to rent a place and pay for advertising. easy money kyle think about it.

[TKS x SLICK]

i think-
Montreal
toronto
ottawa
winnipeg
regina
saskatoon
calgary
edmonton
vancouver

what do you guys think


1. They should not go back to ottawa IMO (The last ottawa was a not a great event and we dont want to have a repeat.

2. too many places. Keep it similar to MLG and have maybe 6 events this year. And only in the MAJOR cities here my list (in no order)

Montreal
Toronto
Vancouver
Calgary/Edmonton
Winnepeg


And maybe a city out east like halifax or something... just a thought

[IPuppy]

1. They should not go back to ottawa IMO (The last ottawa was a not a great event and we dont want to have a repeat.

2. too many places. Keep it similar to MLG and have maybe 6 events this year. And only in the MAJOR cities here my list (in no order)

Montreal
Toronto
Vancouver
Calgary/Edmonton
Winnepeg


And maybe a city out east like halifax or something... just a thought

Not trying to re-bring this conflict up,
but Saskatoon/Regina would have to be in there for two reasons:
a) Home turf
b) Guaranteed AMAZING turnouts

I dont think if they were to do 6 events, Vancouver wouldn't be in there, sorry, its just not a guaranteed turnout, its sooooo far West, and no one knows about PGL out there.

My six would be

1)Montreal- (Passed)
2)Winnipeg- (To keep it close to Montreal)
3)Edmonton- (Close to home)
4)Saskatoon/Regina- (Home turf, not much of a price in putting SASK tourneys on)
5)Calgary- (Close to home)
6)TORONTO-Finals( Biggest Gaming city in Canada=} )

[LucKeS]

6)TORONTO-Finals( Biggest Gaming city in Canada=} )


Hey guys, all good ideas.
Toronto is in Jan btw.

[jestex]

Not trying to re-bring this conflict up,
but Saskatoon/Regina would have to be in there for two reasons:
a) Home turf
b) Guaranteed AMAZING turnouts

I dont think if they were to do 6 events, Vancouver wouldn't be in there, sorry, its just not a guaranteed turnout, its sooooo far West, and no one knows about PGL out there.

My six would be

1)Montreal- (Passed)
2)Winnipeg- (To keep it close to Montreal)
3)Edmonton- (Close to home)
4)Saskatoon/Regina- (Home turf, not much of a price in putting SASK tourneys on)
5)Calgary- (Close to home)
6)TORONTO-Finals( Biggest Gaming city in Canada=} )

you're ideas are good but i disagree because no BC tourney at all and their are a lot of gamers there. You'd understand if you were here too with no lans or tourneys for almost 5 years

[IPuppy]

you're ideas are good but i disagree because no BC tourney at all and their are a lot of gamers there. You'd understand if you were here too with no lans or tourneys for almost 5 years

Sorry my mistake,

well actually,
they're alot of Gamers, its just that BC doesnt know about PGL as well as the middle western and eastern's do. If all the BC gamers found out about PGL, I can guarantee the turnout would be the best so far.(Maybe to be surpassed by Toronto, but it would be better then Saskatoons. And thats for real, cause Im dissing home turf)

And thats harsh about your Lans and Tourneys bro, aha

:D

[jestex]

it sucks lol


well this dude i met on mlg forums from bc has a warehouse and he is setting up a Lan there soon so i'll get the word out about it more than i already have.


I personally only know about 10-12 people from my old school that i got into halo online like.. a few years ago that could go along with a girl that moved here from Vegas that plays..

sooo after i go to the LAN I'll tell everyone how many people are interested and it will defiantly help get the word out probably really quickly. ALSO maybe even after i go to the LAN and check out how big his warehouse is PGL could be hosted there(BURNABY,BC - i believe ).

[Seamonn]

it sucks lol


well this dude i met on mlg forums from bc has a warehouse and he is setting up a Lan there soon so i'll get the word out about it more than i already have.


I personally only know about 10-12 people from my old school that i got into halo online like.. a few years ago that could go along with a girl that moved here from Vegas that plays..

sooo after i go to the LAN I'll tell everyone how many people are interested and it will defiantly help get the word out probably really quickly. ALSO maybe even after i go to the LAN and check out how big his warehouse is PGL could be hosted there(BURNABY,BC - i believe ).

lemme get some info about that lan.. id have 3 guarenteed ppl.. that are good.. add my tag : eh eh eamonn

[SReid]

do 3 regina lans in a row. then with the money you mkae because no travel fees. go to vancouver and toronto and nunavut lolol jk

[SReid]

do 3 regina lans in a row. then with the money you mkae because no travel fees. go to vancouver and toronto and nunavut lolol jk

even better do only like 6 events a year but inbetween events. do local regina lans. where cash give away isnt as much and you use the rest of the ungiven away money to put towards prizes for events. and the money you make from doing local events and having less cost you can use to have events in places such as vancouver and toronto.

[BaSheR]

lemme get some info about that lan.. id have 3 guarenteed ppl.. that are good.. add my tag : eh eh eamonn

vancouver should never happen because half the people from east wouldnt go some people in the central wouldnt go either and unless there is a huge demand to kyle from more then 2 people im talking like 20 people then there will be no vancouver im pretty sure. vancouver = fail ( i agree for toronto saskatoon and winnepeg )

[RoYaL1&2]

even better do only like 6 events a year but inbetween events. do local regina lans. where cash give away isnt as much and you use the rest of the ungiven away money to put towards prizes for events. and the money you make from doing local events and having less cost you can use to have events in places such as vancouver and toronto.

AKA someone should host a LAN in regina.

[CheekyMonkey13]

even better do only like 6 events a year but inbetween events. do local regina lans. where cash give away isnt as much and you use the rest of the ungiven away money to put towards prizes for events. and the money you make from doing local events and having less cost you can use to have events in places such as vancouver and toronto.

Honestly if PGL had a Regina LAN once a month with like no prize money (maybe 1st gets free entry or something? t-shirts? idno) I would still go to them and pay an entry fee, now with that said I would expect the entrance fee to be less than usual, but you know what I mean.

Then like Reid said, take that money and put it towards prize pools/whatever at other events. And I mean you probably would only need one/two stations to play on, or you could have a BYOBox tourney, but that will result in a LOT less teams.

And Basher has a point about having a tourney way out west, I mean it's the same as going to PEI or something. Idno, Basher said it best, if there was enough interest out west I could see it happening, but otherwise idno.

[IPuppy]

Me and about 4-6 other people may even drive out every now and then to play in these,
this is actually a reaaaally good idea. :)

[jestex]

vancouver should never happen because half the people from east wouldnt go some people in the central wouldnt go either and unless there is a huge demand to kyle from more then 2 people im talking like 20 people then there will be no vancouver im pretty sure. vancouver = fail ( i agree for toronto saskatoon and winnepeg )

i have a list of over 20 bc gamers that would go i know about 10 irl

[IPuppy]

i have a list of over 20 bc gamers that would go i know about 10 irl

Do those 20 gamers cover travel cost,renting a place, hotel rooms?

Those are factors in putting on tourneys too:(

[DunWorry]

vancouver should never happen because half the people from east wouldnt go some people in the central wouldnt go either and unless there is a huge demand to kyle from more then 2 people im talking like 20 people then there will be no vancouver im pretty sure. vancouver = fail ( i agree for toronto saskatoon and winnepeg )

You only say that because your from the east. and YOU probably wouldn't go.

I'm sure Vancouver would have a turn out. I live in BC and I've heard about PGL and so have other people from the forum. Its really not that hard to spread the word on XBL or just in your town with your gaming friends. Even if I myself can't convince people to go there are some really good teams out of Washington that probably could make it.

MLG doesnt come North West ( come on Seattle 09!) and PGL doesn't come west ( yet..) So we haven't been given a chance to even find out if there would be a turn out.

Think of how it is for me. I do want to go to an event both PGL and MLG but when Dallas is closer to me then Toronto its kinda ridiculous how far I have to travel to every event. This is just ONE time you have to travel far.

[.MeThoD]

I'm central and I know i'd be just as willing to go to Vancouver as Toronto...

[Seamonn]

ya i have a good 6 ppl that would go for sure.. all live in vancouver.. so no like hotels and shit... 4 of us are under 18 so our mommies would drive us :P.. actually ya.. none of us are even old enough for a licence.. anyways.. add eh eh eamonn for customs

[jestex]

Do those 20 gamers cover travel cost,renting a place, hotel rooms?

Those are factors in putting on tourneys too:(

i know id be willing to pay for the 10 people i know irl's hotel rooms or just let them all stay in my room.

BTW traveling fees from victoria to vancouver = 13$ ferry ride WOW EXPENSIVE.

oh ya I'm not a ****ing retard i know there are travel fees and ****ing hotel costs if there wasn't i wouldn't need a PGL Vancouver so any day you want to stop talking to me like i don't know anything about tournaments that would be that would be cool idiot.


all in all don't talk from a view you don't understand

[IPuppy]

i know id be willing to pay for the 10 people i know irl's hotel rooms or just let them all stay in my room.

BTW traveling fees from victoria to vancouver = 13$ ferry ride WOW EXPENSIVE.

oh ya I'm not a ****ing retard i know there are travel fees and ****ing hotel costs if there wasn't i wouldn't need a PGL Vancouver so any day you want to stop talking to me like i don't know anything about tournaments that would be that would be cool idiot.


all in all don't talk from a view you don't understand

Just trying to help,
asshole.:mad:

[jestex]

Just trying to help,
asshole.:mad:

ok well then I apologize

[IPuppy]

ok well then I apologize

dun worry,
itskay

[Nutraways]

I could guarantee at least 6 4v4 teams JUST from Vancouver, nevermind all of BC and Washington....